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not of religion, necessarily, but of money and money matters and talks. you know that. >> absolutely. i see this as a business story. anyway, we appreciate your story very much. free market capitalism, it's blind to things like race, religion, color, gender and sexuality. that's the economics of it. while i have enormous respect for religious freedom and beliefs, i just don't see this as the key issue in the discussion. that's why i think governor jan brewer should veto what really amounts to a gay discrimination bill and an anti-business bill as well. but many people disagree with me. here now to discuss outgoing business insider, politics editor, josh bare row and we welcome kathy, senior fellow at the family research council and spokesperson for the u.s. catholic bishops. kathy, let me begin with you. you're talking to a pro life catholic. you probably know that. >> i do. >> on this one, i think the capitalist free market principles quite frankly trumped the religious issues. tell me why you disagree. >> this is the same balancing test that ted kennedy and chuck schumer voted into federa
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